King James Only Crowd

Here’s some transcripts I received from an angry KJV only person.  To start, I was asking on his youtube channel, why he felt the need to slander Pastor Chuck Smith.  My text is in blue, his red:

I have to ask why you oppose Pastor Chuck. You aren’t serving the needs of people are you? You aren’t out evangelizing to the lost are you?

No, you are like those who condemned Jesus. Those pharisees who played question games with the Lord. And like Jesus, his disciples experienced the same assault from some of the same pharisees and sadducees.

I don’t know you, but in 1 minute and 30 seconds or so, you try to berate an entire man’s calling.

Wow. You must be like a God, or something.

Get off your high horse and get into the Word.

From,

An imperfect soldier of Christ.

(Seriously, check out how he twists my words, and comes up with stuff out of thin air):

>I have to ask why you
>oppose Pastor Chuck.

He attacked the Bible in his own sermon, calling himself a liar.

>You aren’t serving the
>needs of people are
>you?

I’m doing what God tells me to do: expose those who lie on God’s book – the King James Bible.

>You aren’t out
>evangelizing to the
>lost are you?
>

Yes, probably a lot more than you.

>No, you are like those
>who condemned
>Jesus. Those pharisees
>who played question
>games with the Lord.

God’s words might be a game to you, not me.

>And like Jesus, his
>disciples experienced
>the same assault from
>some of the same
>pharisees and
>sadducees.

You worship Charlie Smith – you compare him to Jesus Christ, compare yourself to one of Charlie’s disciples. Pitiful.

>
>I don’t know you, but

No you don’t, and let’s keep it that way – I don’t want to know you, I have standards about the kind of people I associate with, and you fail the standards.

>in 1 minute and 30
>seconds or so, you try
>to berate an entire
>man’s calling.
>

I “berate” nobody – the clip is entirely his own words played back.

>Wow. You must be
>like a God, or
>something.
>

Why do you say that, are you anxious to dump the Charlie god and get a new one?

>Get off your high
>horse and get into the
>Word.

Get a Bible, as in – THE KING JAMES BIBLE – God’s words in English. And believe it, and if any smiling nut corrects it, tell that clown to take a flying leap at his left leg.

>
>From,
>
>An imperfect soldier
>of Christ.
>

Very imperfect – a swordless, faithless, apostate, paranoid freak. Go back and shovel the stables, leave the real work for the Lord to those who know him and believe his WORDS.

(You ask, why even bother.  I don’t know, sometimes I like to play head games with loony bins).

Nope, you’ve god it all wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGEmlPjgjVI

That your type of church?

I have multiple translations of the Bible. Do you read the original Greek and Hebrew versions? Because if you don’t, then in your words, you don’t have “a real bible”.

You’re a lunatic.

(Yes, I resorted to name calling…)

No, you don’t have “original” Hebrew or “original” Greek.

You’re an uninformed idiot.

(Ok, where did I state I had the original Hebrew and Greek OT and NT??  I should have given up, but I was thirsty for more).

(Here’s my peace token, thoughtful, and to the point)

Look, I apologize for the name calling, as a Christian, it is not Christ like.

I simply meant to ask if you were reading copies of the Holy Bible in the original Hebrew (and Aramaic) and Greek. Or did you really not know that the original versions of the Bible were written in those ancient languages (honest question not meaning to insult)?

I grew up reading from the KJV, but I don’t believe that it is holier or more accurate than others, it is simply an older form of English. There are perfectly qualified translations which use our modern form of language. Are you a member of the Church of England?

If you believe that KJV is the best, then why don’t you speak in the earlier form of English?

That being said, I love the history of the Bible’s translations from Latin to vernacular languages as were the intentions of Tyndale and Luther. Again, as language adjusts and evolves, it will certainly be a requirement to adjust to a more current dialect.

Certainly it is a not a simple task, but a careful and most precious study must be undertaken by scholars to complete such an undertaking.

I have friends who are part of Wycliffe Bible Translators, and they have some awesome and inspiring stories when translating in indigenous languages, some where they had to create a written language! Their translations takes years and years, even decades.

God’s Word needs to spread throughout the entire world, not just modern or ancient English translations.

Currently, our anglicized English with a complex mixture of other foreign languages shares little in common with Shakespearean English (Middle English). Take it to another level, we would likely not understand an English speaker who spoke in Old English, and would not even be able to read their script.

Listen, I am going to let bygones be bygones. I understand those who love the poetic and accurate nature of the KJV. I too love it, but I also love the accurate and understandable translations with our current version of the English language.

(Does he come back with an intelligent response?)

(Nope)

The King James Bible is the scriptures.

There are NO original manuscripts ANYWHERE ON GOD’S GREEN EARTH so either learn something from somebody who knows a lot more than you do (since I know and read God’s very words – AND YOU DON’T) or get lost.

You never read the original Hebrew Text, you never read the original Greek Text, you never looked up on any lexicon published by anybody living or dead, the God ordained meaning of any Greek or Hebrew word in English – unless it came from the KING JAMES BIBLE ITSELF.

Sorry to break the news to you, but the Bible is NOT preserved by Charlie Smith or even intelligent people who know what they are talking about when it comes to “scholarship”.

I’m not wasting another email on you – I’ll write it now for the LAST TIME to you and you can either get it or you can go ahead and spiritually blow your brains out committing suicide by REJECTING GOD’S WORDS IN ENGLISH – – > THE KING JAMES BIBLE IS GOD’S WORDS, THE SCRIPTURES IN ENGLISH. WE DON’T CORRECT THEM, THEY CORRECT US.

To blazes with any and all “ministries” by any and all “good, godly, dedicated, soul-winning, loving, caring, sharing” HERETIC WHO DARES CHALLENGE THE WRITTEN WORDS OF GOD. AMEN AND AMEN, FOREVER AND EVER – TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!!

HALLELUJAH!!!

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There you have it.  My once in a lifetime adventure with a KJV only kook.  I sent him the link to this, and will just let it rest.  No point beating a dead horse, of whom this one apparently had the brain of.

Cheers

P.S. If the curiosity gets the best of you, and you lose rational thought, you can check out his self-postering videos here.

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3 Responses to “King James Only Crowd”

  1. Dan Says:

    Apparently Jesus spoke an Aramaic dialect of Elizabethan English.

  2. metaljaybird Says:

    hahaha! This was my point, but the guy was so irrational in his argument. As you can see he started yelling at me (in internet style).

    Ah well, it was kind of a waste of time on my part. I am guilty of that once in a blue moon.

  3. lori Says:

    Sad, if I didn’t know better, this guy would actually make me run screaming from the KJV. If he’s a Christian, he’s doing a very good job of hiding it.

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